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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 8, 2021 20:35:12 GMT 1
How long has it taken them to work this out? Just stop it completely. Bugger the TV money that's what it all about.
All top-flight clubs have now been given an “enhanced” set of measures that ban all shirt-swapping and warn against handshakes or hugging during matches. The new rules would be ratified at the next shareholders’ meeting but, because of the urgency, the proposals will be implemented immediately.
The Premier League is aware of the rising public anger with high-profile footballers who have flouted lockdown rules in recent weeks and has therefore decided to reinforce the message of responsibility to its clubs and players.
Edit: Maybe some of these so called men and women overpaid "prima donnas" (it won't hurt me) should be given a tour of the hospitals and see the desperate states of people instead of just a slap on their wrist and a meaningless fine. OK there's a percentage of British included but let's be realistic all these foreign imports just here for the money couldn't give a toss about the happenings in this country just so long as the "bucks" roll out into their accounts.
The game was good when each club was limited to 2 imports back in the days of Muhren and Thysen at Ipswich who fitted in at their clubs. The worst thing that has happened is to allow all these money grabbing foreigners and agents into our national game. . . . I could go on but I've work to do.
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Post by paphosroger on Jan 8, 2021 21:42:04 GMT 1
I think it’s about time that these “Fancy Dans” stopped behaving like they do and ALL football was suspended over 1000 people are dying a day for gods sake!
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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 9, 2021 12:41:39 GMT 1
Well said Phaphos.
Let's stop it all and let them go on furlough.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 10, 2021 13:28:30 GMT 1
Well said Phaphos. Let's stop it all and let them go on furlough. Frankly, with the number of games postponed yesterday because of the virus at the so-called elite clubs, I don't think you need to be an Einstein to realize that they will be stopped for a considerable period of time shortly. |
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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 10, 2021 18:47:14 GMT 1
So much for the new directive regarding shirt swopping and contact. What did we get yesterday in the majority of cases - just a load of morons taking no heed of that. Perhaps all the ruddy foreigners can't read English unless it has a £ in front of it.
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Post by stevebone on Jan 10, 2021 19:32:57 GMT 1
My own personal view is that football at the elite level should carry on if possible, as it is helping lift the spirits of football fans everywhere who in many cases have little else going on to occupy their minds.
I also think the percentage of footballers breaking the rules is probably no worse than the percentage of the general population - it's just that their transgressions are high profile.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
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Post by dingle on Jan 10, 2021 22:33:09 GMT 1
I agree with Steve that elite level football should carry on as it is although I can see both sides of the argument. I enjoy watching English domestic football on Sky as I do other sports which have continued behind closed doors, horse racing and snooker for example, which, on a selfish note, certainly lifts my spirits . Whilst acknowledging paphosroger valid comment that 1000 are passing away every day I don't think that suspending ALL football will make much difference to that figure. I was astonished to read recently that since the outbreak of this pandemic last March the figure for those dying under the age of 60 AND with no underlying health issues was under 1000 - still too many of course but this needs to be put into context.
I would admit, however, that seeing the Chorley players and staff celebrating their FA cup win over Derby County yesterday in the changing room, social distancing rules were hardly being adhered to.
Also whilst it's nice to see opposition players and managers embracing each other at the final whistle, once again, I'm not sure what rules and recommendations they are working to.
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Post by Rattlesnake on Jan 10, 2021 23:15:27 GMT 1
Kudos to Spurs for giving Marine an entire kit of unused Hotspur team shirts as Cup tie souvenirs due to being unable to swap them after the final whistle.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 10, 2021 23:59:14 GMT 1
Very many people within the population are not football supporters or supporters of any sport. They are probably appalled that football is still being played at any level. I agree that it lifts the spirit of those of us who like football though but in the general scheme of things, l think you would struggle to condone it, especially as the situation worsens.Other sports like rugby union sre leaning to postpone their sport indefinately.
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Post by stevebone on Jan 11, 2021 12:52:03 GMT 1
Rugby still being played at elite level - in fact pretty much all sports that have elite levels are being allowed to carry on. It's not just football.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 11, 2021 14:11:38 GMT 1
So much for the new directive regarding shirt swopping and contact. What did we get yesterday in the majority of cases - just a load of morons taking no heed of that. Perhaps all the ruddy foreigners can't read English unless it has a £ in front of it. |
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 11, 2021 14:20:58 GMT 1
Rugby still being played at elite level - in fact pretty much all sports that have elite levels are being allowed to carry on. It's not just football. Steve, the IFU are strongly considering cancelling the home internationals after france said it was most liely thathey wouldnt take part because of crossing international borders. |
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 11, 2021 18:48:10 GMT 1
Rugby still being played at elite level - in fact pretty much all sports that have elite levels are being allowed to carry on. It's not just football. Steve, the IFU are strongly considering cancelling the home internationals after france said it was most liely thathey wouldnt take part because of crossing international borders. Steve, the french have caused the rugby union european cup to be suspended. Again, international boundries. |
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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 12, 2021 9:51:38 GMT 1
We had the classic situations from the dressing rooms at Crawley and Chorley as well as on the pich at other games and then the guy from Crawley on the box speaking from Bristol on Monday morning.
YEA, SPREAD IT ALL AROUND YOU CLOWNS!
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Post by paul on Jan 12, 2021 11:05:58 GMT 1
Dave, all the players and staff involved in the FA Cup third round were tested beforehand - that’s how clubs like Shrewsbury knew they had an outbreak. The players you see on the TV are obviously the ones that tested negative. In case you’re not aware, the Premier League also conducts tests every few days - that’s how football at that level is allowed to continue.
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Post by andrewr on Jan 12, 2021 17:20:43 GMT 1
Getting a negative Covid test doesn't mean you can flagrantly disregard the rules. The test just provides a level of reassurance that, at the point in the past when you were tested, you were not infected.
Below are three statements from the Chorley FC Covid Risk assessment, which is available on their website. Similar statements appear in every clubs risk assessment.
Changing rooms should be used for changing and showering only and done so as quickly as possible.
Usage to be staggered to minimise numbers.
Observe social distancing, again, minimising numbers. For example, only the manager and starting 11.
If footballers are not capable of playing without adhering to the guidelines they agreed to play within then they will need to stop playing, but I for one would not expect the taxpayer to subsequently bale them out.
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Post by paphosroger on Jan 12, 2021 18:19:55 GMT 1
Footballers “Mugging and Hugging” one another after they score and/or at the end of a game whilst I can’t do that with my family and god daughters makes me very angry - Just doesn’t seem right!
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Post by paul on Jan 12, 2021 21:45:49 GMT 1
Getting a negative Covid test doesn't mean you can flagrantly disregard the rules. The test just provides a level of reassurance that, at the point in the past when you were tested, you were not infected. . Of course, but in terms of absolute risk, a player having tested negative a couple of days previously and hugging his teammates (who’ve also tested negative) carries far less risk than a random member of the population (who hasn’t been tested) hugging an elderly relative or family member, which is the point that seems to have drawn the ire of both Dave and Roger in this thread. |
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Post by stevebone on Jan 14, 2021 10:39:25 GMT 1
Am with Paul on this - footballers are simply doing what they are allowed to do. They are always an easy target for criticism, though.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 14, 2021 13:18:39 GMT 1
Correct
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 14, 2021 13:48:27 GMT 1
Correct.
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Post by paphosroger on Jan 14, 2021 16:50:38 GMT 1
Am with Paul on this - footballers are simply doing what they are allowed to do. They are always an easy target for criticism, though. And the Premier League are to discuss the new COVID 19 protocols with managers and players this week and I am sure nothing will change the behaviour of the Chorley and Crawley players at the weekend was sickening I understand their emotions were high but they then had to go back to their families It wouldn’t surprise me if the governments patience ran out and shut football down soon |
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Post by stevebone on Jan 15, 2021 10:33:51 GMT 1
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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 21, 2021 15:18:56 GMT 1
And now it appears to have all come and bitten Crawley Town in the foot. Footballers and a lot of other individuals will never learn.
We now have the terrible situation regarding the poor Copper at Bournemouth only doing his job marshalling disbelieving covid demonstrators and both him and his wife are now hospitalised. There's some utterly selfish b**t**ds about.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 21, 2021 17:30:16 GMT 1
And now it appears to have all come and bitten Crawley Town in the foot. Footballers and a lot of other individuals will never learn. We now have the terrible situation regarding the poor Copper at Bournemouth only doing his job marshalling disbelieving covid demonstrators and both him and his wife are now hospitalised. There's some utterly selfish b**t**ds about. |
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 21, 2021 17:31:47 GMT 1
And now it appears to have all come and bitten Crawley Town in the foot. Footballers and a lot of other individuals will never learn. We now have the terrible situation regarding the poor Copper at Bournemouth only doing his job marshalling disbelieving covid demonstrators and both him and his wife are now hospitalised. There's some utterly selfish b**t**ds about. I would have put it in somewhat stronger words, but would quite rightly be banned on here for them |
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Post by Dave Silk (ex shottermiller) on Jan 30, 2021 22:18:40 GMT 1
And what did we have today at WBA (I just woke up and saw the last 15 minutes) to empty headed pratts swapping shirts at the finish. Surely they should be hit with a hefty fine. What about the FA directive. Maybe they can't read English apart from £££ signs! Sorry to go on but some idiots never bl**dy will never learn.
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