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Post by moregeriatricfan on Dec 28, 2021 21:14:30 GMT 1
First things first. I thought Worthing thoroughly deserved their win today. We were not lacking in enthusiasm or effort. however we were lacking in experience which proved vital as the game wore on, we need Craney and Harvey back asap. From my point of view other issues reared their ugly head which overshadowed the game somewhat. I can't believe that in this day and age Amadou was subject to racist comments from behind the goal. Unfortunately a lot of the youngsters who follow Worthing at the moment have no boundaries at all. Hopefully the Worthing board have a plan to address this, because there is a good chance that their club will be known for all of the wrong reasons. Worthing have always been a friendly club. There is no place in football for this vile behaviour.
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Post by Dodgy Keeper on Dec 28, 2021 21:49:09 GMT 1
I thought Worthing displayed many of the qualities that get sides promoted: gamesmanship, covert fouling (shirt pulling), intimidating the ref, simulation (aka diving), and strength ( a positive). I, too, have always considered Worthing to be a friendly club/team but was disappointed by their negative qualities today. But I've no doubt that they'll go up.
Having said that I'd love to see their no. 15 in a Rocks shirt and Ollie back at the Lane. But it's never going to happen.
The two new boys, Gifford and Hughes, impressed. It says a lot about their abilities to be thrown into this type of match with little preparation..
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Post by BBB on Dec 28, 2021 21:54:35 GMT 1
How does that ref keep getting appointed to games at this level? Shocking again today. I would have thought his connections to Bognor would prohibit his involvement, let along his competency.
Worthing were good for their win. We barely got a look in 2nd half and look destined for mid table mediocrity again.
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Post by dingle on Dec 28, 2021 22:02:26 GMT 1
Yup, agree with everything said above by moregeriatricfan.
I think we can safely rule out even a play-off place this season for the Rocks. Here we are nearly in 2022 and we've won just twice at home in the league. Enough said.
The lads give their all and play some attractive football which is why attendances have been so healthy this year but we're not strong enough to compete with the Worthing and Folkestones of this world.
On a more light-hearted note, I was there earlier than usual to avoid the queues but I must say the music played before the match is awful. Given the average age of the crowd at the Lane these days must be approaching 50ish (okay I'm well I'm advance of that) can the club consider playing something more appropriate?
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Post by stevebone on Dec 28, 2021 22:18:48 GMT 1
My fourpenneth would be that Worthing deserved their win for their second half showing, which was good from minute 46 to 90 (or 94). Would have been interesting to see what a full-strength Rocks side (ie with Nathan, Calvin and Craney) could have done but there were too many below-par showings from home players.
Anyhow here's my match report -https://www.bognor.co.uk/sport/football/delayed-derby-day-is-a-delight-for-worthing-and-sobering-for-bognor-3508800
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Post by Felpham Rock on Dec 28, 2021 22:25:55 GMT 1
I believe we now have the second highest average attendances in the league & are 12th in the league with two home wins. All the other clubs with the highest attendances are top or in the play off positions. I’ve posted we are massively underachieving on here in the past & was ‘knocked back’. Sorry I don’t blame refs or the opposition for being ‘professional’ or ‘streetwise’ for every defeat like many do on the forum. How about we are just unbalanced & not good enough?
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Post by hothampton on Dec 28, 2021 22:47:40 GMT 1
that moment in the video at 1:25 where Ollie gets knocked out by a puff of air
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Post by cityboy on Dec 29, 2021 7:52:02 GMT 1
Been mulling over yesterday's game before giving my view.
Firstly Worthing deserved their win. Think it might have had a different game plan had we had our full team out, but no excuses the best team won.
2nd the verbal abuse that Amadou had to tolerate in the 1st half has no place at the Lane or in football.
Hopefully this has been reported by the ref and the FA act on it. According to Amadou's twitter page this is not the first time this season that coloured players have been subjected to such abuse by Worthing fans.
Worthing were quick to issue a statement regarding the pitch situation the previous day, but have gone quiet on this🤔🤔 wonder why? Perhaps yhey like burying their head in the sand🤔
I also witnessed the canteen staff being verbally abused by drunken older Worthing fans at half time and the behaviour as they left the ground was disgusting as well.
They may well have a good team but they have no class off the pitch and I feel sorry for their real fans who are being tarnished by these prats!!!
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Post by redrag on Dec 29, 2021 9:08:33 GMT 1
City boy, thanks very much for your begrudging congratulations on the outcome of the game.
As a Worthing fan I would like to sincerely apologise for the alleged behaviour of a minority of our supporters and also to Amadou. Racism in any shape or kind is abhorrent and should not be seen to be condoned. I hope that the club do issue a clear statement to this effect. Unfortunately we seem to have collected a few of these complete mindless morons as the gates have got bigger. Apologies again.
This is certainly not tit for tat but I believe it should also be mentioned that an object was thrown at our keeper towards the end of the game.
However, back to the game. I don't believe Cityboy that had you had "your full team" out there the result would have been any different, after all it is presumably your full team that has now left you languishing a full 20pts behind. Worthing where also not at full strength yesterday but the game is now about a squad of players not just a team.
Just to add that despite the intense rivalry between the two clubs, I as an ex Worthing player have always enjoyed this aspect and have respect for the way that Bognor as a club generally operate.
Anyway, Happy New Year to you all.
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Post by kof on Dec 29, 2021 9:19:09 GMT 1
What a highly skilled team Worthing are: skilled at shirt pulling, holding and Ollie's long-standing ability to fall over at the slightest opportunity has been adopted by the whole team. And the repartee of their fans astounding. The club's management must be really proud of their achievements.
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Post by redrag on Dec 29, 2021 9:56:16 GMT 1
Oh dear me Kof, yet another bitter and twisted Bognor supporter.
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Post by Goldy on Dec 29, 2021 10:26:49 GMT 1
City boy, thanks very much for your begrudging congratulations on the outcome of the game. As a Worthing fan I would like to sincerely apologise for the alleged behaviour of a minority of our supporters and also to Amadou. Racism in any shape or kind is abhorrent and should not be seen to be condoned. I hope that the club do issue a clear statement to this effect. Unfortunately we seem to have collected a few of these complete mindless morons as the gates have got bigger. Apologies again. This is certainly not tit for tat but I believe it should also be mentioned that an object was thrown at our keeper towards the end of the game. However, back to the game. I don't believe Cityboy that had you had "your full team" out there the result would have been any different, after all it is presumably your full team that has now left you languishing a full 20pts behind. Worthing where also not at full strength yesterday but the game is now about a squad of players not just a team. Just to add that despite the intense rivalry between the two clubs, I as an ex Worthing player have always enjoyed this aspect and have respect for the way that Bognor as a club generally operate. Anyway, Happy New Year to you all. Appreciated Redrag. No complaints best team On the day one. Regarding said bottle incident. It wasn’t right and the area it came from the lads were told we don’t do that here. But again it doesn’t make it right,it was empty and nowhere near Harrison until he saw it and decided to kick further up the pitch and Then grabbed the referees attention. |
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Post by Pete Helsby on Dec 29, 2021 11:47:50 GMT 1
Whilst l fully accept this is a discussion board, l would like to point out that certain incidents during yesterdays game are being fully investigated by the police and definitely the FA. The game and most probably these incidents were fully recorded yesterday and copies have been requested by the authorities. I think the best thing to do is to leave this alone and await any reports and repercussions.
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Post by jennyfromtherox on Dec 29, 2021 15:19:32 GMT 1
However, back to the game. I don't believe Cityboy that had you had "your full team" out there the result would have been any different, after all it is presumably your full team that has now left you languishing a full 20pts behind. Of course having a full team with different players would have changed everything because in case you have forgotten it was "our full team" that beat Worthing 2-0 at Woodside Road earlier this season. You don't have to believe it, it happened. On a more light-hearted note, I was there earlier than usual to avoid the queues but I must say the music played before the match is awful. Given the average age of the crowd at the Lane these days must be approaching 50ish (okay I'm well I'm advance of that) can the club consider playing something more appropriate? I do requests, specifically what songs would you like to hear ? |
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Post by keithsson on Dec 29, 2021 15:40:29 GMT 1
Long time reader, first time poster here.
Stop! Before you go ripping up all your playlists... I'm in the aforementioned age bracket and thought your music choices were excellent 👍
I'd rather listen to upbeat, up tempo modern music than the standard downbeat vintage middle of the road fare usually served up at football grounds.
The music is a long way down the list of things that need to be changed at Nyewood Lane.
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Post by Felpham Rock on Dec 29, 2021 17:00:50 GMT 1
Some great posts on here. Would it have been different if we’d had a stronger team out? Got to agree with the Worthing fan. No. We are 20 points behind them playing our strongest team most weeks. The interesting post was the one saying our attendances are so high because we play good football. I’m not so sure. Fans flooded in because it looked like we were going to have a real go at promotion. If my memory is correct we’re went 2nd in the table after a very lucky win v a very poor Leatherhead. We could all see that night we needed strengthening & didn’t. Hope I’m wrong but if we are mid table those gates will go back to around 450 again.
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Post by redrag on Dec 29, 2021 21:21:45 GMT 1
jennyfromtherox, I do believe that Bognor beat Worthing 2-0 at Woodside Road with your "full team", I was there. However, even the most stubborn supporter would have to admit that on that day the better team lost, and I repeat that your "full team" are currently 20pts behind. How do you explain that away. Now, are you prepared to believe, because I am sure that you were there that if it wasn't for a once in a lifetime pandemic that Bognor were beaten 3-0 home and away by Worthing or do you choose to believe that a ridiculous null & void decision means that it simply didn't happen.
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Post by kof on Dec 30, 2021 11:16:06 GMT 1
Just received the results of the modelling of the match without players pulling shirts, holding or falling over. Result 3-1.
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Post by mistral on Dec 30, 2021 14:49:49 GMT 1
I don't intend to say anything about the match as that has been well covered. The point that I find interesting is Jack admitting the team isn't good enough in particular saying there are 4 players not up to the required standard to compete at this level. I think it is a bit out of order when he is ultimately responsible for recruiting & signing the players so in other words don't blame the team but accept the blame yourself. The years of having a lot of very young players hasn't achieved promotion so if we continue to do that then accept we are at the right level.
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Post by bremner on Dec 30, 2021 19:17:01 GMT 1
Having had a chat with a friend over half time, I was late getting back to the far end and had to walk through the Worthing fans at the club house end. In years past, I would have expected some friendly banter as I went through, but this time was the first time there I ever felt a proper nasty atmosphere. I was genuinely getting ready for a punch to be thrown my way.
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Post by moregeriatricfan on Dec 31, 2021 11:29:07 GMT 1
I actually took the same trip as Bremner just after half time. and know exactly what he means. The younger element following Worthing are an awful bunch who are definitely looking for something other than watching a football match. I was in Hotham Park with my sister just before Christmas and she was talking to a long time Rocks supporter, who said he wasn't going to the Worthing match because of this particular group of supporters. This is so sad. Non league football is all about friendly rivalry. I am sure Worthing FC are worried about what is happening. Unless this problem is addressed it could cost them dear in the future. Let's hope not too many of them come back for the Sussex Senior Cup match. Football at any level should be about the game and friendly competition, not rubbish like this.
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Post by Pete Helsby on Jan 1, 2022 12:09:14 GMT 1
I actually took the same trip as Bremner just after half time. and know exactly what he means. The younger element following Worthing are an awful bunch who are definitely looking for something other than watching a football match. I was in Hotham Park with my sister just before Christmas and she was talking to a long time Rocks supporter, who said he wasn't going to the Worthing match because of this particular group of supporters. This is so sad. Non league football is all about friendly rivalry. I am sure Worthing FC are worried about what is happening. Unless this problem is addressed it could cost them dear in the future. Let's hope not too many of them come back for the Sussex Senior Cup match. Football at any level should be about the game and friendly competition, not rubbish like this. Nailed in one! |
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Post by jennyfromtherox on Jan 1, 2022 20:14:38 GMT 1
Long time reader, first time poster here. Stop! Before you go ripping up all your playlists... I'm in the aforementioned age bracket and thought your music choices were excellent 👍 I'd rather listen to upbeat, up tempo modern music than the standard downbeat vintage middle of the road fare usually served up at football grounds. The music is a long way down the list of things that need to be changed at Nyewood Lane. Thanks for the kind words, I am in the aforementioned age bracket too and it is always nice to be appreciated. Happy New year to you !  jennyfromtherox, I do believe that Bognor beat Worthing 2-0 at Woodside Road with your "full team", I was there. I rest my case. |
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Post by redrag on Jan 1, 2022 22:40:37 GMT 1
Oh deary me jennyfromtherox, in shear desperation you choose to clip a tiny bit from my post. However Jenny the facts remain the same, Bognor are now 23pts behind and you had some of the players that would have made such a huge difference back today. It would be so nice to hear from someone on the Bognor forum (apart from felphamrock) that quite simply at the moment Worthing FC are the better side. It may not last, but at the moment it is as "cityboy" likes to say a FACT. Happy New Year to you all.
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Post by editorbrtfc on Jan 1, 2022 23:31:34 GMT 1
Another defeat today which now puts us 23 points behind Worthing. It really shows the trajectory of both clubs since late 2018 and the cold harsh really is Worthing, Lewes & Eastbourne are progressing and we’re going backwards.
Today and Worthing were season defining games. It’s really hard to see where we go from here? It might not be a popular view but something needs to change in the dugout(not RB) or in the dressing room, and that’s not really realistic at our level is it.
Who’s good enough? Crane, Harvey Jake, Amadau & McCallum
Cook and Dandy seems to have really lost there way since joining for a second time around.
Bell & Nathan have a lot of potential but what with the managerial team saying they want to challenge and that we’re good if not better than most of the division, time is not something you get if you want to be successful.
Jordy and several others are either simply not up to the level required or badly under performing. You decide. It’s the cold harsh reality I’m afraid.
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