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Post by stevebone on May 5, 2022 11:02:21 GMT 1
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Post by cityboy on May 5, 2022 20:57:39 GMT 1
Being bored one evening I thought I would google all the grounds for the 2 proposed leagues and how far they are from Bognor.
Going by google search if we were to go into the Southern league we would do 4094 miles during the season. If we stay in the Isthmian league we would do 4316 miles.
On our anticipated travel times we would actually do approximately 9 hours less time on the road over the course of the year.
Our average home gate last season would have put us top of the gates in the Southern league; although the numbers would obviously be different as we will lose our local games v Worthing; Horsham and Lewes. However who knows perhaps lots of new; different clubs might attract new fans to the club🤔🤔.
Interesting times ahead
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Post by jackswoolyhat on May 6, 2022 10:46:42 GMT 1
What committee actually decides on where each team is allocated? I would assume that it is the Football Association or is it a gathering of the various league committees? Or is that the same thing as the FA?
Does anyone know when they meet and when it is ratified?
I assume they need to know who will be promoted from the three National Leagues before they hold any meetings, but would have a good idea already of how the leagues will look.
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Post by statto on May 6, 2022 15:54:24 GMT 1
Subject to FA ratification, The proposed Southern Premier South Division apparently looks like this…
Beaconsfield
Dorchester
Gosport
Harrow
Hartley Wintney
Hayes & Yeading
Hendon
Met. Police
Poole
Salisbury
Swindon Supermarine
Tiverton
Truro
Walton Casuals
Weston SM
Yate
Bognor Regis Town
Corinthian Casuals
Bracknell
Hanwell
Plymouth Parkway
Winchester
Proposed Isthmian Premier is as follows…
B Stortford
Bowers & P
Brightlingsea
Carshalton
Cray W
Enfield Town
Folkestone
Haringey
Hornchurch
Horsham
Kingstonian
Lewes
Margate
Potters Bar
Wingate & F
Leiston
Needham Market
Billericay
Aveley
Canvey Island
Herne Bay
Hastings
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Post by jackswoolyhat on May 6, 2022 19:31:10 GMT 1
I'm guessing your source Statto is the Non-Leagues Maps website. I'm beginning to think this could well happen and I'm quite excited at the prospect. Click on link to view spreadsheet: Non-League Maps Projection*you need to then click on the "Step 3" tab at the bottom. |
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Post by statto on May 8, 2022 13:30:31 GMT 1
That’s the one JWH. I too am looking forward to this prospect. Nothing is set in stone yet of course. We await the decision.
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Post by mistral on May 8, 2022 22:14:34 GMT 1
I wonder what the equivalent of a typical Essex team is in the Southern Premier?
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Post by Goldy on May 9, 2022 9:55:11 GMT 1
I’d be super keen for a “go” in the southern league. Actually sounds quite exciting playing teams we may have never or
relinquishing old rivalries. Isthmian league is boring,lots and lots of very similar trips.
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Post by barry on May 9, 2022 12:21:14 GMT 1
Southern League for me all day long . Sick to death of all the Isthmian League clubs. Most of them make me puke. A few exceptions.
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Post by stevebone on May 9, 2022 13:38:34 GMT 1
I think Barry's comment on the rest of the Isthmian League is my favourite bit of punditry of the summer so far!
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Post by statto on May 9, 2022 14:23:48 GMT 1
I’d be super keen for a “go” in the southern league. Actually sounds quite exciting playing teams we may have never or relinquishing old rivalries. Isthmian league is boring,lots and lots of very similar trips. Of the proposed Southern Premier South Division teams, when we last played them. Does NOT include friendlies Beaconsfield - never played them Bracknell Town - 2018/19 season (FA Trophy) Corinthian Casuals - last season (Isthmian Premier) Dorchester Town - 2008/09 season (Conference South) *Gosport Borough - 1980/81 season (Southern League Southern Division) Hanwell Town - never played them Harrow Borough - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier) Hartley Wintney - never played them Hayes & Yeading - last season (FA Cup 1Q) Hendon - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier) Met. Police - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier, last day of season) Plymouth Parkway - never played them, although played at their ground last season Poole Town - 2017/18 season (National South) Salisbury - 2006/07 season (Conference South, the old Salisbury City) Swindon Supermarine - never played them Tiverton Town - 1995/96 season (FA Cup 4Q) Truro City - last season (FA Trophy at Plymouth Parkway) Walton Casuals - 2018/19 season (FA Trophy) Weston SM - 2017/18 season (National South and also FA Cup that season) Winchester City - 1972/73 season (Southern League Southern Division) Yate Town - never played them. * not 100% with the last time with Gosport. Of course we’ve met them on numerous occasions in pre-season friendlies within the last two decades but there was a cup competition in the late 80s/early 90s called the Premier Inter League Cup (known as the GMAC Cup late 80s, then the Clubcall Cup). I might be wrong but I am thinking Bognor played at Privett Park some time in that period in this competition, but don’t have the all the info on this. |
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Post by Rattlesnake on May 9, 2022 21:36:23 GMT 1
Inspired by the last post, I chucked a few random words into the net including "Isthmian Cup Archives" and was lucky enough to find this...
GMAC (InterLeague) Cup
10-Oct-89 1st round Gosport Borough 1 Bognor Regis Town 2 attendance 307
Of the teams we've never met or played at before (in case we visit them)...
Beaconsfield Town - almost next to the first junction westwards off the M40 from the M25
Hanwell Town - half a mile south of the notoriously slow A312 (Western Avenue) and early arrival needed to assure parking
Hartley Wintney - pretty village near Fleet in Hampshire, rocketed up from the Combined Counties in recent years
Swindon Supermarine - an old works team, British aircraft manufacturer most famous for the Spitfire
Yate Town - nice trip to Gloucestershire, did very well recently making the FA Cup proper rounds
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Post by statto on May 9, 2022 22:04:32 GMT 1
Cheers for that Rattlesnake. I wasn’t imagining things then.
Regarding Yate’s FA Cup run, their tie with Yeovil was said to be the first time two teams beginning with Y had faced each other in the competition. The town is also referenced towards the end of the Half Man Half Biscuit song The Referee’s Alphabet with the lyric…. Y is for Yate, the kind of town that referees come from.
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Post by Goldy on May 10, 2022 10:14:36 GMT 1
I’d be super keen for a “go” in the southern league. Actually sounds quite exciting playing teams we may have never or relinquishing old rivalries. Isthmian league is boring,lots and lots of very similar trips. Of the proposed Southern Premier South Division teams, when we last played them. Does NOT include friendlies Beaconsfield - never played them Bracknell Town - 2018/19 season (FA Trophy) Corinthian Casuals - last season (Isthmian Premier) Dorchester Town - 2008/09 season (Conference South) *Gosport Borough - 1980/81 season (Southern League Southern Division) Hanwell Town - never played them Harrow Borough - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier) Hartley Wintney - never played them Hayes & Yeading - last season (FA Cup 1Q) Hendon - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier) Met. Police - 2016/17 season (Isthmian Premier, last day of season) Plymouth Parkway - never played them, although played at their ground last season Poole Town - 2017/18 season (National South) Salisbury - 2006/07 season (Conference South, the old Salisbury City) Swindon Supermarine - never played them Tiverton Town - 1995/96 season (FA Cup 4Q) Truro City - last season (FA Trophy at Plymouth Parkway) Walton Casuals - 2018/19 season (FA Trophy) Weston SM - 2017/18 season (National South and also FA Cup that season) Winchester City - 1972/73 season (Southern League Southern Division) Yate Town - never played them. * not 100% with the last time with Gosport. Of course we’ve met them on numerous occasions in pre-season friendlies within the last two decades but there was a cup competition in the late 80s/early 90s called the Premier Inter League Cup (known as the GMAC Cup late 80s, then the Clubcall Cup). I might be wrong but I am thinking Bognor played at Privett Park some time in that period in this competition, but don’t have the all the info on this. This is why I’d love a little go in this league for a few seasons,after we win promotion of course 😊 |
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Post by paphosroger on May 10, 2022 16:06:25 GMT 1
Would really welcome this as there are a few local grounds that I have been to Dorchester Poole and Salisbury and to see the Rocks playing there again would be magic. Bring it on!!
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Post by dingle on May 10, 2022 22:19:03 GMT 1
A few years ago when there was talk of switching to the Southern League it was all doom and gloom. No one was keen. Now it seems everyone is more positive.
If the club does move across (I still don't think we will) would we have a better chance of promotion to the National League South?
The Boxing Day fixture would presumably be against Gosport or maybe Winchester.
Either way lets hope the Rocks can make a serious promotion challenge in season 2022/23.
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Post by Rattlesnake on May 10, 2022 23:57:40 GMT 1
A few years ago when there was talk of switching to the Southern League it was all doom and gloom. No one was keen. Now it seems everyone is more positive. Either way lets hope the Rocks can make a serious promotion challenge in season 2022/23. In 1981, in order to cut back on travel costs and mileage, Bognor successfully requested a switch from the Southern League to the Isthmian League (successful switch applications back then were as rare as hen's teeth, and the news made the Stop Press back page section of the London Evening Standard) but, in order to swap over, The Rocks had to agree to drop a division to the Isthmian First Division, in which runners-up spot (in the days of two up two down) was achieved. |
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Post by Goldy on May 11, 2022 12:13:56 GMT 1
A few years ago when there was talk of switching to the Southern League it was all doom and gloom. No one was keen. Now it seems everyone is more positive. If the club does move across (I still don't think we will) would we have a better chance of promotion to the National League South? The Boxing Day fixture would presumably be against Gosport or maybe Winchester. Either way lets hope the Rocks can make a serious promotion challenge in season 2022/23. I think now Worthing have cleared off from the Ryman League,it just feels a good time for change. Even more so with the ongoings off the pitch where the club are trying to move on in other ways. |
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Post by wilsonia on May 11, 2022 14:01:30 GMT 1
I also wonder if avoiding Hastings in the Isthmian Prem might prove handy. They're getting some massive gates. So good to see Sussex football on the up!
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Post by cityboy on May 11, 2022 21:05:24 GMT 1
A few years ago when there was talk of switching to the Southern League it was all doom and gloom. No one was keen. Now it seems everyone is more positive. If the club does move across (I still don't think we will) would we have a better chance of promotion to the National League South? The Boxing Day fixture would presumably be against Gosport or maybe Winchester. Either way lets hope the Rocks can make a serious promotion challenge in season 2022/23. I think when this was last mentioned the travel in the Southern league was massive. On the proposed leagues for next season the Southern league is less traveling than the Isthmian league. Because of the Dartford tunnel and the dreaded M25 it also means roughly 20 hours less time on the road getting to all the grounds in the Southern league ( how sad am I?) Me personally I would love to change leagues just for a bit of a change. Now we have lost Worthing yhere are REALLY big games in the Isthmian league to look forward to. Perhaps a few new teams might stimulate interest to attract new fans🤔🤔🤔. Only time would tell but I would relish the change |
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Post by statto on May 12, 2022 17:04:28 GMT 1
Dingle was right. It’s isthmian next season again!
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Post by kof on May 12, 2022 20:00:01 GMT 1
Really looking forward to us playing Billericay Rubbish Processors again.
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Post by stevebone on May 12, 2022 20:14:29 GMT 1
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Post by dingle on May 12, 2022 21:25:13 GMT 1
Pagham to the Wessex League. What's that all about. I can't see our friends from Nyetimber Lane being happy with this.
It will be interesting when the club make their feelings known unless of course they applied which I doubt very much.
Portland United away will be a nice trip - a round trip of 210 miles. Even Rye when they were in the old county league was only 166 miles.
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Post by cityboy on May 12, 2022 21:26:05 GMT 1
Absolutely gutted!!
Like many fans I was really looking forward to the Southern League. New venues and clubs which in turn I feel could have bought in new fans. At least we are not in the same league as Needham Market and Leiston so travel is a lot less than was being predicted.
Still have the delights of the M25 and the Dartford crossing unfortunately but what will be will be.
Nice to go to Hastings after many years away and for me a new venue at Herne Bay.
Also the bank holiday fixtures v Lewes and Horsham.
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Post by barry on May 15, 2022 9:23:06 GMT 1
Very disappointed it’s not the Southern League. Most of the Isthmian clubs are tin pot, one horse shambles. The cheeseburgers at Cheshunt are a particular example of Isthmian League standards, as are the ladies toilets at Bishops Stortford.
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Post by mistral on May 15, 2022 15:43:50 GMT 1
Barry, are you intending to publish a guide to Ladies toilets in the Isthmian or was that just a one off visit? I'm also disappointed not to have the chance to experience teams & grounds in the Southern. Still lets hope Robbie & Jamie can conjure up an entertaining & successful team for next season.
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Post by statto on May 15, 2022 17:10:22 GMT 1
. The cheeseburgers at Cheshunt are a particular example of Isthmian League standards, Well at least we won’t have to suffer with those next season. National South supporters can have the pleasure. |
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Post by boredprose on May 20, 2022 18:44:59 GMT 1
I confess I was hoping for a season or two in the Southern too. I never fancied it before (I’ve always felt the football was better in the Isthmian) but it would have made for some interesting journeys and it is hard for even the most committed supporter to get excited about yet another trek to Bishops Stortford, East Thurrock, Potters Bar or Wingate & Finchley (to name but a few). Never mind, in Robbie & Jamie we trust - I’ll settle for promotion and another crack at National League South. (If Cheshunt can do it…..!)
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Post by Goldy on May 23, 2022 18:17:49 GMT 1
Just a thought. So Walton Casuals are about to disappear. Leatherhead get a reprieve and get placed in the Isthmian, whilst Bognor take Walton’s place in the Southern?
Copied this via statto.
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